Episode 256: Writing While Black with James Pogson

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NARRATIVE CLARITY: Telling the right stories - Selling You and Your Business - The right Way

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Show Notes

Ever wondered why Vicky bangs on about the importance of storytelling? Well, pull up a chair and open your ears and listen: this week, she interviews Black British narrative storyteller and humorist James Pogson. James is known informally as LinkedIn’s poet laureate and this week he spills an entire teapot about why it’s so important we get to hear individual stories and voices, especially from Black people and especially marginalised voices. It might get uncomfortable: that’s cool. Sit with it. Absorb it. Listen.

Key Points

  • [1:25] This podcast might make you uncomfortable, but it’s an important topic about how Black people are treated in Britain and in society!
  • [3:00] Why is it so important that people tell their stories?
  • [4:30] James shares his experiences as a man ‘writing while Black’.
  • [5:45] Black people are still fighting for their humanity.
  • [9:40] How do we express our true selves at work and not suppress it?
  • [11:40] What does James do and how does he help people tell their stories?
  • [14:00] People just don’t know how to tell their stories.
  • [17:35] James shares some of the common misconceptions people have about him ‘because he’s Black’.
  • [22:20] When James had to put on a mask for Covid, he had a lot of internal conflict. Should he take it off to show he’s not a threat? Leave it on? Dilemma.
  • [25:35] There are countless stories of white people telling stories that Black people were animals and savages.
  • [29:00] James is in the process of writing a series of books! Stay tuned for more!

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